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Inaccessible area on the map?
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Janis Papanagnou
2024-07-15 10:38:41 UTC
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(I'm playing notnotdNethack but the topic described below may as well
have been borrowed from precursors, notdNethack or dNethack.)

I've encountered a non-connected area on a level of the main dungeon.
After digging towards it and around it looks like a 3x3 room. It has
undiggable walls. There's no ESP-detectable monsters in there. Object
detection suggests that the area is empty. A try to teleport into that
area failed. (It may be full of traps or contain only solid rock, but
I don't know; what else could prevent the teleport? Maybe it's full of
non-ESP monsters?)

It is identified and described by the #overview command as: "Level 16:
(inaccessible area)".

What purpose does it serve? Is there any way to get into that area?
Does it make sense to visit that area in the first place? Or should I
just ignore it?

Janis
Zersterer
2024-07-15 17:31:03 UTC
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Post by Janis Papanagnou
(I'm playing notnotdNethack but the topic described below may as well
have been borrowed from precursors, notdNethack or dNethack.)
I've encountered a non-connected area on a level of the main dungeon.
After digging towards it and around it looks like a 3x3 room. It has
undiggable walls. There's no ESP-detectable monsters in there. Object
detection suggests that the area is empty. A try to teleport into that
area failed. (It may be full of traps or contain only solid rock, but
I don't know; what else could prevent the teleport? Maybe it's full of
non-ESP monsters?)
(inaccessible area)".
What purpose does it serve? Is there any way to get into that area?
Does it make sense to visit that area in the first place? Or should I
just ignore it?
Janis
What was the message when you used teleport control to get there?
Janis Papanagnou
2024-07-15 22:44:16 UTC
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Post by Janis Papanagnou
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(inaccessible area)".
Upon reconsideration; this may have been just an #annotated description
(by me) not a generated one. (It's been quite some time when I explored
it so I may have forgot that actually I named it that way. Doh!) Sorry!
Post by Zersterer
Post by Janis Papanagnou
What purpose does it serve? Is there any way to get into that area?
Does it make sense to visit that area in the first place? Or should I
just ignore it?
What was the message when you used teleport control to get there?
It was the usual effect that we get when trying to land on a square you
cannot land on (occupied by monster or any trap preventing landing); so
I just landed at a different location on that level. I don't recall any
specific message; if there was a message I forgot the exact formulation
because it was nothing unusual. Too much time passed since I discovered
that area. If I'll come back to that level (presuming I'll survive the
game) I'll spend another scroll of teleport to verify that.

Janis
Janis Papanagnou
2024-07-24 15:15:31 UTC
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Post by Zersterer
Post by Janis Papanagnou
[...]
(inaccessible area)".
Upon reconsideration; this may have been just an #annotated description
(by me) not a generated one. (It's been quite some time when I explored
it so I may have forgot that actually I named it that way. Doh!) Sorry!
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Post by Janis Papanagnou
What purpose does it serve? Is there any way to get into that area?
Does it make sense to visit that area in the first place? Or should I
just ignore it?
What was the message when you used teleport control to get there?
The message is simply "Sorry...".
Post by Janis Papanagnou
It was the usual effect that we get when trying to land on a square you
cannot land on (occupied by monster or any trap preventing landing); so
I just landed at a different location on that level. I don't recall any
specific message; if there was a message I forgot the exact formulation
because it was nothing unusual. Too much time passed since I discovered
that area. If I'll come back to that level (presuming I'll survive the
game) I'll spend another scroll of teleport to verify that.
I tried to teleport to almost every square in that region, but to no
avail. Read confused gold detection, but there are no traps in there.
There could be non-ESP monsters filling the area that occupy any free
landing spot. Finally quaffed a blessed potion of monster detection
and detected a 'Z', a zombie (dread seraph, a huge humanoid), that
covered the central square of that region. With that information we
can find: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dread_seraph
As became obvious, it's better to leave it alone. It will be a pain
once woken up.

Janis

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